Amazing Long Range View, Hot Tub, Pool Table, 20min Bryson City, Cherokee, GSMNP
“If you are thinking of booking this place, do it now. You will not be disappointed as the views, views, and more views are even better in person.” - Dave
Situated at 3200 feet you can see miles of STUNNING layered Mountain Views from the front deck of Valley View which is conveniently located between Bryson City & Sylva and close to Smoky Mountain NP & Cherokee.
“Wow!!! Just simply wow!!! If you are looking for a quiet getaway in the mountains this is where you want to be!!!!” - Jeani
You can't go wrong whether you simply come to relax at the cabin or use it as a home base for your Mountain adventures as there are lots of options for dining, shopping, breweries, hiking, kayaking, fishing, whitewater rafting, biking and sight-seeing.
"Valley View is the best cabin we've ever stayed at. It's beautiful, sparkling clean, has the best view, best privacy, and I could go on. Thanks Andy!" - Richard
We have a game room loft with a pool table and dart board, a fire pit to circle around at night, rocking chairs to chill in and take in the view on the very large wrap around deck, an authentic Bier Garten picnic table for outdoor dining on the side deck and a hot tub on the lower level with a view to soak away and release your daily tensions.
"This is a must stay home. Close enough to get into town for a quick jaunt, yet far enough away that you feel as if you are on top of the world...The hot tub looking over the valley was icing on the cake." - Myra
We also have DVDs for movie time as well as board games and puzzles for family bonding. Our cabin is a place where we go to "get away from it all" and share quality time connecting with family and friends. We go there to unplug, so there is no Wi-Fi, however, there is good cell phone reception for most carriers.
"The cabin is equipped with plenty of games and movies for all ages, and there's no internet or cable TV, so this is a perfect recipe for quality, peaceful time away from society and with your family/friends." - John David Jacobs
We feel so blessed and are so grateful to have this wonderful little slice of heaven here on earth. Nothing can compare to the joy it brings us or the joy it brings to those we get to share it with. We hope that will include you and yours.
"This cabin is a dream! The view is insane and it is just magical. We spent our time playing games, sitting in the hot tub, and sitting in front of the fire reading. We also did a hike almost every day. There's tons to do in the area...It was very clean and comfortable and every little thing had been thought of. We had every thing we needed. Andy is also very communicative and we felt that he genuinely wants people to enjoy his cabin as much as his family does. Worth every penny! That VIEW!" - Danielle
The entire cabin is yours to enjoy. Please just be respectful and treat it like your home away from home. And while we are not local, we are always available for text or call and will help respond to emergencies and get our local team on top of any issues as fast as possible.
"The best 5 days we could have asked for! Views are breathtaking! We spent the majority of our time either in the hot tub (oh the view!) or by the fire pit! Master bed was so comfy, the cabin felt like home!" - Heather
NOTICE: THE INFAMOUS DRIVE - Must Read BEFORE booking!
Please be advised that this amazing view means you have to travel 2 miles up a steep and narrow mountain road. The road is not paved after the first 1/3 of the way. It is a private road so it is not state maintained. It is graded twice a year so at times it can be very bumpy and have ruts if it's been a while since it's last grading.
It is not meant for vehicles with trailers (as once you get up to the top, there is little room to turn a trailer around) nor should you come here on your motorcycle unless it is a dual sport meant for off-road.
4 WHEEL DRIVE IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED as is ARRIVING IN DAY LIGHT on your check in/first time up. I can't stress this enough!
The ride up can be a challenge and scary for drivers not experienced with mountain driving, but if you know the basics, like using a low gear and maintaining a slow steady speed, then you should not have a problem. Several people live up this road year-round and traverse it regularly.
There are certainly steeper roads than this one, however, on ours a front wheel drive only vehicle will find the climb very challenging, ESPECIALLY if there is inclement weather, your tires are balding or your car is heavily weighed down with vacation supplies.
Over the many years we have rented our cabin we have had a few guests who didn't heed our advice and therefore had trouble with the drive and it negatively affected their vacation. A few could not get up one of the steep sections with a couple actually getting stuck and a few others simply felt it was too challenging for them to be able to come and go as freely as they had envisioned and therefore had to make last minute alternate arrangements. This is mainly due to one section in particular.
At the very top of the mountain about 200 yards to the driveway of Valley View there is a hairpin turn into a very steep gravel section. In a two-wheel drive vehicle, this will be the most challenging and is where these aforementioned guests had their trouble.
If you read our hundreds of reviews you'll see that over 99.8% have successfully traversed our road and enjoyed our cabin, so don't be too freaked out, we are only taking the time to be as explicit as we can about this because we want you to have a great time and believe having correct expectations is a key to that. We have always felt the drive is just part of a good, rugged mountain adventure vacation.
It is worth it, just read the reviews, but if you are not comfortable with the thought of steep, narrow, gravel roads then perhaps a cabin at lower elevation would be more suitable for your needs and expectations. If you envision a vacation where you can easily zip in and zip out of your rental on paved roads of a subdivision, then perhaps a different cabin would suit you. We do have another cabin (Bear Creek Cabin) that sits in the Valley below Valley View that sleeps four that meets these criteria if you are interested.
PLEASE BE ADVISED - If you book Valley View and ignore our recommendations stated above you assume all the risk. No refunds will be offered for guests who choose not to stay because of their feelings or difficulties regarding the drive to get there, including getting stuck and needing a tow.
"Andy’s cabin was by far amazing!!! The view is worth it all!!! We all had SUVs and had no trouble at all with the road up to the house. No one needed to use 4 wheel drive. DONT LET THE ROAD TO THE HOUSE KEEP YOU FROM BOOKING!!!! ...We will most definitely be booking with Andy again!!" -Brittany
FIREWOOD - Firewood for the fire pit is not provided and can be purchased at Lowe's in Sylva or we have a contact named DeWayne who delivers if needed.
WATER - Our cabin is on well water. It is filtered and is totally fine for consumption and all of your other needs. However, bring bottled water if you prefer.
FIREARMS - Firing of Firearms on our property is strictly prohibited. Although our cabin is private and secluded, we have many neighbors nearby that live on our mountain with us and firing out from our property puts them at risk and they will call it in. Please be smart! If you want to fire your gun go to a shooting range in the area.
Servicios en la propiedad
Piscina/spa
Bañera de hidromasaje
Aparcamiento y servicios de transporte
Se necesita coche
Aparcamiento en las instalaciones
Cocina
Cafetera y tetera
Frigorífico
Horno
Lavavajillas
Microondas
Molinillo de café
Papel de cocina
Placa de cocina
Vajilla y utensilios de cocina
Dormitorios
2 dormitorios
Se proporcionan sábanas
Sofá cama
Baño
2,5 baños
Bañera o ducha
Champú
Jabón
Papel higiénico
Se proporcionan toallas
Secador de pelo
Zonas comunes
Chimenea
Sala de estar
Entretenimiento
Juegos
Reproductor de DVD
Televisión
Videoteca
Zonas al aire libre
Mobiliario exterior
Parrilla de barbacoa
Patio
Servicios de lavandería
Lavadora
Lavandería
Confort
Aire acondicionado
Calefacción
Mascotas
Se aceptan mascotas
Solo se admiten perros
Hasta 23 kg por mascota
Características especiales/accesibilidad
Alojamiento libre de humo
Nota del propietario: No smoking allowed inside house.
Aspectos destacados de la ubicación
En las montañas
Junto a un río
Actividades
Golf
Mesa de billar
Casino en las inmediaciones
Ciclismo de montaña en las inmediaciones
Equitación en las inmediaciones
Escalada en las inmediaciones
Escalada en roca en las inmediaciones
Esquí acuático en las inmediaciones
Golf en las inmediaciones
Kayak en las inmediaciones
Lanchas motoras en las inmediaciones
Natación en las inmediaciones
Observación de aves en las inmediaciones
Paseos en moto acuática en las inmediaciones
Paseos para ver animales salvajes en las inmediaciones
Pesca en las inmediaciones
Rafting en las inmediaciones
Rutas de senderismo/ciclismo en las inmediaciones
Tubing acuático en las inmediaciones
Medidas de seguridad
Detector de monóxido de carbono (el propietario ha indicado que hay un detector de monóxido de carbono en el alojamiento)
Detector de humo (el propietario ha indicado que hay un detector de humo en el alojamiento)
Recibirás un correo electrónico del anfitrión con las instrucciones para hacer el check-in y el check-out.
La información proporcionada por la propiedad podría estar traducida con herramientas de traducción automática.
Instrucciones de check-out
El anfitrión exige que realices lo siguiente antes del check-out:
Cargar y encender el lavavajillas
Quitar las sábanas usadas y juntar las toallas usadas
Quitar los artículos personales y sacar la basura
Apagar las luces, cerrar las puertas y devolver las llaves
Si no sigues todas estas instrucciones, podrías recibir una opinión negativa por parte del anfitrión.
Mascotas
Se aceptan mascotas
Se aceptan animales de servicio (sin cargo)
Se aceptan perros únicamente
2 como máximo (hasta 23 kg por mascota)
Se aplican restricciones: para obtener más información, comunícate con la propiedad al número que figura en la confirmación de la reservación.
Nota del anfitrión: There is a 2 pet maximum and $50 per pet fee.
Niños y camas adicionales
Los niños son bienvenidos.
No se permiten fiestas ni eventos
No se permiten fiestas ni eventos grupales.
Información importante
Importante
Puede aplicarse un cargo por cada persona adicional, según la política de la propiedad.
Es posible que se solicite un documento de identidad con foto emitido por las autoridades gubernamentales, y una tarjeta de crédito, débito o depósito en efectivo en el check-in para cubrir cualquier gasto imprevisto.
Las solicitudes especiales no se pueden garantizar. Están sujetas a disponibilidad al momento del check-in y pueden conllevar cargos adicionales.
No se permiten fiestas ni eventos grupales.
El anfitrión indicó que hay un detector de monóxido de carbono en la propiedad
El anfitrión indicó que hay un detector de humo en la propiedad
Las medidas de seguridad de la propiedad incluyen extintor de incendios, botiquín de primeros auxilios y cerradura de alta seguridad
Vrbo, nuestro sitio asociado, administra este hospedaje. Recibirás un correo electrónico de Vrbo con un enlace que te llevará a tu cuenta de Vrbo, donde podrás cambiar o cancelar tu reservación.
Información adicional
Se necesita un auto para acceder a este hospedaje.
Información de la zona
Esta cabaña se encuentra en la montaña, frente al río, en Whittier. Great Smoky Mountains Railroad (ferrocarril turístico) y Oconaluftee Indian Village son sitios emblemáticos locales, y algunos de los lugares cercanos donde se pueden hacer actividades incluyen Club de campo Smoky Mountain y Club de golf nacional Sequoyah. También vale la pena conocer Museo de Trenes de Smokey Mountain y Cherokee Botanical Garden and Nature Trail. Las actividades como paseos en moto de agua y kayak ofrecen una gran oportunidad de disfrutar del agua y, si buscas un poco de adrenalina, puedes hacer caminatas y ciclismo en los alrededores. Visitar nuestra guía de viaje de Whittier
Great Smoky Mountains Railroad (ferrocarril turístico)
14 min en auto - 13.3 km
Club de campo Smoky Mountain
5 min en auto - 1.6 km
Museo de Trenes de Smokey Mountain
14 min en auto - 13.3 km
Opciones de transporte
Aeropuerto de McGhee Tyson (TYS): 143 minutos en auto
Restaurantes
McDonald's
16 min en auto
McDonald's
16 min en auto
Bryson City Brewing
18 min en auto
Bojangles' Famous Chicken 'n Biscuits
16 min en auto
Waffle House
18 min en auto
Preguntas frecuentes
¿Amazing Long Range View, Hot Tub, Pool Table, 20min Bryson City, Cherokee, GSMNP acepta mascotas?
Sí, esta propiedad acepta perros (límite de 2) con un peso máximo de 23 kg por animal. Es posible que se apliquen algunas restricciones. Comunícate con la propiedad para obtener más detalles.
¿Cuánto cuesta el estacionamiento en Amazing Long Range View, Hot Tub, Pool Table, 20min Bryson City, Cherokee, GSMNP?
Hay estacionamiento disponible en la propiedad.
¿A qué hora es el check-in en Amazing Long Range View, Hot Tub, Pool Table, 20min Bryson City, Cherokee, GSMNP?
Hora de inicio de check-in: 15:00.
¿A qué hora es el check-out en Amazing Long Range View, Hot Tub, Pool Table, 20min Bryson City, Cherokee, GSMNP?
Check-out: 11:00.
¿Dónde se encuentra Amazing Long Range View, Hot Tub, Pool Table, 20min Bryson City, Cherokee, GSMNP?
Frente al río, esta cabaña se encuentra a pocos pasos de Nantahala National Forest y a 3,3 km de Club de campo Smoky Mountain. Tuckasegee River y Club de golf nacional Sequoyah también se encuentran a 15 km.
Opiniones de Amazing Long Range View, Hot Tub, Pool Table, 20min Bryson City, Cherokee, GSMNP
Opiniones
Excepcional
Todas las opiniones que se muestran provienen de experiencias de huéspedes reales. Solo las personas que han reservado una estadía con nosotros pueden enviar su opinión. Verificamos las opiniones con base en nuestras pautas y las publicamos todas, tanto positivas como negativas.
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación, veracidad del anuncio
Mens’ weekEnd
Great spot. Thx again.
William B.
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Alicia R.
26 oct. 2024
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Family vacation
Stunning Mountain View from porch! My daughter loved the pool table, hot tub , and huge connect four. Very comfy beds! Very peaceful
Alicia R.
Se hospedó 4 noches en octubre de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Marcela T.
10 nov. 2025
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Amazing little getaway! THE VIEW! Even got to see snow on the last night. The house was equipped with everything one could possibly need, once we arrived we never left!!!!Andy was super pleasant and easy to communicate with.Would definitely recommend, will definitely be back!!
Marcela T.
Se hospedó 2 noches en noviembre de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Dave n Jaime W.
19 jun. 2024
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Chicken Noodle Soup For The Soul
Beautiful cabin and gorgeous views! The drive up wasn’t bad at all! It was truly a blessing to unplug and disconnect from the world for a week, much needed!! We will definitely be back!
Dave n Jaime W.
Se hospedó 8 noches en junio de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Brook B.
4 ene. 2025
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Would not Change a Thing
We were looking for a family getaway to reconnect. This did exactly that. The cabin itself is set up well. The hot tub and deck had beautiful views. The beds were very comfortable. The cabin is close enough to civilization that sight seeing and hiking did not require long periods in a vehicle. We would definitely stay here again.
Brook B.
Se hospedó 4 noches en diciembre de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Ryan J.
8 nov. 2025
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I really enjoyed my stay here. The cabin is clean, well stocked and the owners clearly take pride in the place. The road up is scenic and even the parts that are gravel are well maintained. I didn’t even spin a tire. There are other homes along the road, but it still manages to feel super secluded. It’s a quick trip into Bryson City, and they even left an Ingles savers card on the keychain for the house. 100% recommend a stay here.
Ryan J.
Se hospedó 6 noches en noviembre de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Edith S.
28 jun. 2024
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Perfect Quiet Retreat
"Valley View" is accurate - the view from the deck of the cabin is gorgeous. It is the perfect spot to sip coffee in the mornings or wine in the evenings while taking in the view and listening to the peaceful nature sounds. Andy was a perfect host - answering all questions we had promptly. The cabin was extremely clean and had everything we needed for our stay.
Edith S.
Se hospedó 5 noches en junio de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Kimberly P.
4 abr. 2024
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Beautiful property!
I absolutely loved staying there, there were a few things that got missed in the cleaning before the stay but nothing major. Plenty of privacy and beautiful views. They have everything you need from laundry supplies to kitchen utensils and dishes. They even had milk and juice in the refrigerator. I hope to be able to stay again soon.
Kimberly P.
Se hospedó 2 noches en marzo de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Liz T.
6 ago. 2022
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Beautiful Valley View
Third year in a row. We’ve loved every trip. Central to area towns we enjoy visiting such as Bryson City, Sylva, Dillsboro, Franklin, to name a few. The house itself is perfect for us. We love the high ceilings with second floor pool room. The view is spectacular and the main reason we keep coming back.
Liz T.
Se hospedó 6 noches en julio de 2022
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Megan F.
21 oct. 2022
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Weekend Getaway
The property has an absolutely stunning view and is a great place to disconnect! Great communication with the host and easy check in process. I would only book if you have 4-wheel drive!! We did not and regret that decision.
Megan F.
Se hospedó 2 noches en octubre de 2022
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Timothy W.
20 oct. 2023
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Family Vacation
We thoroughly enjoyed our stay at Valley View. It was a great place to just unwind from the hustle and bustle of life and just enjoy some family time and an incredible view! The cabin is very warm and inviting.The beds were very comfortable. We really enjoyed the gas fireplace on the chilly mornings and evenings. The location was close to great hiking trails. The hot tub was a welcomed way to relax after a full day of hiking. The only thing I would warn others about would be the drive up to the cabin would be difficult in a two wheel drive pick up truck due to being so light on the back end and spinning in the gravel. Most cars or suvs should be fine if they are all wheel drive. Overall we really enjoyed our stay!
Timothy W.
Se hospedó 4 noches en octubre de 2023
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Latonya B.
15 feb. 2026
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The cabin was very much what we wanted and it didn’t disappoint it is a steep travel up the mountain but it was well worth it
Latonya B.
Se hospedó 2 noches en febrero de 2026
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Bobby B.
4 nov. 2025
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Our host was very polite. The cabin was beautiful, comfortable and clean. It was secluded and private, just what we wanted. There was a great view of the mountains when the weather was clear. Unfortunately it rained every day except for the last day. The inside of the cabin was also beautiful and very comfortable. The bed we slept in was very comfortable. We also enjoyed the fireplace which we kept going the entire time. I would love to live permanently. It was my kind of place. I would recommend this place to anyone. Thank you Andrew!!!
Bobby B.
Se hospedó 5 noches en octubre de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
BARBARA M.
27 oct. 2025
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What’s not to love… hot tub, fire pit, cozy fireplace, beautiful view. Beds were very comfy and the kitchen had everything we needed.
BARBARA M.
Se hospedó 3 noches en octubre de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
melissa w.
23 may. 2022
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Ah MAZING
Beautiful property with a perfect view! Owner is so awesome with communicating as well as transparent. P.S. the ride up wasn't bad, it's the mountains, and the secluded property and view are so worth it! Thank you for hosting!
melissa w.
Se hospedó 2 noches en mayo de 2022
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Alicia R.
6 abr. 2022
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Family spring trip
Beautiful views! Wonderful stay!
Alicia R.
Se hospedó 3 noches en abril de 2022
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
rob R.
12 mar. 2022
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Incredible stay and views
Great location for visiting surrounding towns and activities. Great set up for a family. Enjoyed our stay.
rob R.
Se hospedó 6 noches en marzo de 2022
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Gina G.
20 feb. 2022
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Wonderful Anniversary Getaway!
This place was perfect! So relaxing which is what we were going for. Time stood still and is was so peaceful. The sunrise I. The mornings was fantastic. Definitely want an AWD vehicle. But we had no problems in our Subaru Crosstrek. Highly recommend!
Gina G.
Se hospedó 2 noches en febrero de 2022
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Amy W.
11 feb. 2022
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Amazing Views
My husband and I spent 4 wonderful nights at this wonderful cabin. The views were amazing and we loved how secluded it was. Unfortunately we had a power outage that threw a kink in our dinner one night but the owner was very responsive and actually gave us a refund to cover our dinner. If you are looking for secluded and relaxing this is the place to stay. No internet or cable gave us the time to enjoy each other’s company. It’s a short drive to Bryson City or Cherokee where there are many things to do and see. I would definitely stay again. Thanks for everything Andy!
Amy W.
Se hospedó 4 noches en febrero de 2022
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Lauren S.
3 ene. 2022
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Better than expected
Beautiful home and funny labels. We thoroughly enjoyed our time there!
Lauren S.
Se hospedó 2 noches en diciembre de 2021
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Rainer M.
27 dic. 2021
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Valley View stay
The place is as it is described. It had everything you could possibly need for your stay. Owner was easy to communicate with. Would highly recommend!
Rainer M.
Se hospedó 4 noches en diciembre de 2021
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Sarah W.
19 nov. 2021
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación, veracidad del anuncio
Mountain top retreat
What an amazing trip and cabin; Andy went above and beyond when it come to anything and everything about our stay. The views were spectacular, the cabin had everything we needed and MORE, and we cannot wait to stay next year. This cabin is perfect for a small or large family as well as the fur babies. Once again, thank you to Andy for letting us use your cabin and get away from the stresses of life for 5 days!
Sarah W.
Se hospedó 4 noches en noviembre de 2021
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Paul L.
8 nov. 2021
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A true Gem & Fall paradise
Description and directions are extremely accurate, our trusty Subaru made the trip just fine! The drive up is windy but so worth it for the amazing and astounding views. We witnessed some of the best sunrises we have ever seen there! Close to many great adventures, Deep Creek Trail, the Smokey mt railroad, the Great Smokey Mountains National Park, and more. We even made the trip to the Biltmore in Asheville and back. Everything was clean as can be, directions and accommodations were all above our expectations. Wonderful place to stay and unplug and take in all the area has to offer! Thanks to the owner for sharing their spot with us and hope to return again someday in the future
Paul L.
Se hospedó 5 noches en octubre de 2021
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Jay M.
31 oct. 2021
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Great stay
The cabin was great. The view was gorgeous. The cabin was well equipped with everything we needed. Would stay again and recommend to family and friends.
Jay M.
Se hospedó 2 noches en octubre de 2021
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Joanie L.
22 oct. 2021
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación, veracidad del anuncio
What a view!
Valley View is a comfortable and well maintained property, very private and with a marvelous view of the hills and valley. We loved it, and want to return again.